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To Hell With Hell - Riding South By Driscoll's Lack of Care
10/16/06 - 11:11:17 am
Categories: Theology

I have no idea what the title of this post means, other than the fact that Driscoll pissy writing infuriates me again. He titles his recent post, "To Hell with Hell". Frankly I'm wondering if he's ushering his readers their with his heartless and pithy posts.

He begins this post by discussing a TBN preacher of a church of 6000, who went to Oral Roberts University and the lot. Not the type of guy I'd be too interested in, frankly. Then Driscoll goes on to recap an interview of this guy and how the preacher got to a "universalist" gospel.

Then Driscoll proceeds to see how much of a "failure" the guy was.

Well the guy talked about seeing starving people, basically in human made hell. Africans with bloated bellies and sunken eyes and such. I've seen it, and frankly he's right. The guy claims to have talked to God and God mentioned that he has redeemed these people. Later to go on in the conversation to imply that even Hitler has been redeemed.

Now I have a hard time with that one, as many people might, but I admire the guy's respect and reverence for the power of God. He said, Hitler is not above the power of God.

But the guy's church dwindled - dwindled bad. He now has a flock of "just a few hundred" (my church is barely capping 100 now). Driscoll implies that this guy was a failure.

I do not endorse universalism, but I will fight for the idea somewhat. I certainly think the compassion of this guy is a larger testimony to God's heart than Driscoll's pithy comments. What I find most funny is that Driscoll plays the numbers game again, pointing out that this guy lost a church of 6000.

I say good riddence if the people left because they were afraid of a little compassion. I remember this guy named Jesus who lost a lot of "followers", because they did not like his words of compassion. Frankly, I'd be happier going to a church of compassionate people, who give God the benefit of the doubt, in a small rented room of an Episcopal church then wnat to set foot in the Mars Hill (Washington) circut of rock stars and glammer girls who care little about starving kids in Africa.

Disclaimer: There truly may be many people at Mars Hill Church that care. To them, I'm sorry. I dislike your pastor's public voice and I hope one day I am privy to hear him say something nice. Until then, keep on compassioning and proving me wrong.


Comments:

Comment from: Andrew [Visitor] Email · http://atspangler.net

Good post!

I went ahead and read Driscolls article.. It is dissapointing to see what seemed like unnecessary critique of the universalist guy.

On one hand, I can begin understand with the fervor of sticking to doctrine, yet I am also reminded that most (if not all) powerful disciples of God were denounced heretics in their time. Luther. B.T. Roberts. Even guys like Galileo Galilei who went counter to the church doctrine at the time.. I think we ought to lend an ear to many so-called 'heretics'.

Thanks for your thoughts on my Saving Faith post.. I wonder how universalist theology would play into the theology of saving faith?

Here's another question I have wrestled with: What about Gandhi? What about Siddhartha Gautama? Did they possess saving faith - and is it accurate to say (certainly about Gandhi) that they lived out the characteristics of a redeemed human? Is that universalism, and is it really that bad?

Good stuff.. :)

PermalinkPermalink 10/20/06 @ 03:12
Comment from: Kevin [Member] Email

Andrew, your temperance after reading Driscoll's arguments are good. I wish I had the temper you had.

As for the Ghandi question at some point I'll try to post the question and my response in another post. Thanks for commenting.

PermalinkPermalink 10/20/06 @ 10:04

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