It is true that christians are to help the poor, however the gospel never places economics before morals. Obama says he is a christian, but supports planned parenthood and their practice of terminating the lives of unborn children. He as a christian opposes marriage between a man and a woman. Fundamentals Jesus give in Matthew stating, a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife. A follower of Jesus would never support perversion. No matter what the reason. We are to always follow the Word in the direction given from Genisis - Revelation. Loving the person but hating the sin. How can Obama be a christian and yet be so liberal. It’s hard to convince me based on his record. Facts do not lie. You will know a person by their fruit. And if you walk like the world, talk like the world, look like the world, hang with the world and are supported by the world you are not a christian, but of the world!

however the gospel never places economics before morals.

Umm... since when are economic issues NOT moral issues? Please point out where the Bible distinguishes between "economics" and "morals."

He as a christian opposes marriage between a man and a woman

He does? Please show me where he opposed marriage between man and a woman. I would love to see that Obama quote.

How can Obama be a christian and yet be so liberal.

Heh... who knew that that Bible talks about conservative and liberal politics.

Dave,
Thanks for your thoughtful comments about the link between Abortion and Economics. A recent study commissioned by "Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good" had Political Science and American Government Scholars from Penn State, Notre Dame, and Georgetown to conduct studies on how best to significantly reduce abortions in America. The results were shocking! Economic pressures upon pregnant women is a major cause of their abortions. To read the full study with charts and everything, go to
http://www.catholicsinalliance.org/ and click to read full Abortion study (19 pages). Or another option is to simply read the press release. I am very impressed that this study was done in a very non-partisan manner. Here is a snippet from the press release:
“Too often our abortion debate has been used to score political points by both sides, rather than to identify what kinds of public policies will actually prevent and reduce abortions in America. This data shows that policy makers on both sides of the aisle have a moral imperative to enact legislation that provides economic and social supports for vulnerable women and families in order to reduce abortions,” said Alexia Kelley, Executive Director of Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good. “Being pro-life is not just a slogan. It requires concrete programs and public policies that help women and families with robust economic and social supports. Both political parties can agree to unite behind comprehensive strategies that reduce abortions.”

Abortion is never all right. You can't justify it. Yes we need to help economic patterns that create a supposed need for abortion, but we can't allow abortion. It is hypocritical to be pro choice.

I don't even understand why Barack Obama would be pro choice and for infanticide.

The greatest destroyer of peace is abortion. Mother Teresa

Obama doesn't support infanticide.

Spread lies somewhere else.

Dave, you say he does not support infanticide? Here you go; this is all on the record people reference for yourselfs that is something he cannot cover up.

Obama was opposed to Illinois legislation in 2001, 2002 and 2003 that would have defined any aborted fetus that showed signs of life as a "born alive infant" entitled to legal protection, even if doctors believe it could not survive.

Dave, you say he does not support infanticide? Here you go; this is all on the record people reference for yourselfs that is something he cannot cover up.

Obama was opposed to Illinois legislation in 2001, 2002 and 2003 that would have defined any aborted fetus that showed signs of life as a "born alive infant" entitled to legal protection, even if doctors believe it could not survive.

You should actually do your research. There were already laws that required doctors to care for live babies. Obama voting against this law did not mean that Obama was okay will killing live babies, and it does NOT mean that he supports "infanticide."

Dave,
Again, you really need to stop listening to just what Obama tells you, the so called "law" that he goes around to try and cover up for himself was a law from 1975 that was then found unconstitutional in 1884 thanks to those who support abortion, yes he would be right if the original law was in place but it was overturned in the 80's. So please I think you need to do your research.

From FactCheck.org:

But for Jessen to claim that she "wouldn't be here" without the legislation Obama opposed is false. Jessen's life would have been protected under Illinois law with or without any of the "born alive" bills Obama opposed in 2001, 2002 and 2003.

And from the Republican sponsor of the legislation:

None of those who voted against SB-1082 favored infanticide.

So go troll somewhere else. Maybe you can find another blog interested in your distortions and lies.

Dave,
again you repeat what he says, and yes in your very reference it references what I already said in 1975 that was law but in the 80's due to Pro Choice people the court found the law to be unconstitutional. Tell people the truth they can handle they like Obama regardless on here but at least tell them the truth.

To do otherwise constitutes a Class 3 felony, which carries a sentence of two to five years in prison. That's been the law in Illinois since 1975, two years before Jessen was born. What Obama voted against was legislation that would have extended the law's protection to any aborted fetus that shows any sign of life, even if doctors are certain that it cannot survive.

First, I find it quite funny that you ignore much of what I have said and posted, including this:

From the Republican sponsor of the legislation:

None of those who voted against SB-1082 favored infanticide.

But go ahead and ignore the person who wrote the bill and continue to baselessly claim that Barack Obama supports infanticide.

Second, lets be honest with what the new law did. It extended the current legal requirements so that doctors would be required to try and save fetuses even though the doctor has determined that the fetus cannot survive. Doctor's were and are required to attempt to save any fetus that shows a sign of life and has a change of living. The law would have extended it so that doctor's would have to attempt to save a life even if the doctor has determined that the fetus cannot and will not survive.

Let me state this clearly - Barack Obama DOES NOT support infanticide, and to claim that he does goes well beyond any standard of decency or honesty.

Dave, The law that you speak of was ruled unconstitutional! Look everyone go ahead and go to youtube and hear from Obamas mouth himself say that a second doctor would only impede the original decision of the mother who wanted the abortion. Meaning that when the child survives the abortion and is there suffering the original decision was to kill it so the child should die. That is what you support Dave. Good job, keep referencing his talking points in the end you can not make it right (by making a law) to do something that is morally wrong. If killing an unborn child is not morally wrong for you then you should not be able to call yourself a Christian.

If killing an unborn child is not morally wrong for you then you should not be able to call yourself a Christian.

I didn't realize that you got to choose who was a Christian or not.

Do any of you who are in support if obama watch fox news especially hannit and comes. If I were you I would you just might change your mind about this man. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing. This man wants to take money away from those that work hard and give it to those that don't work at all. How can anyone let alone a christian be in support of abortion in any shape or form partial, not partial what ever killing of another is wrong. This man owns a million dollar home but says that those of us who have a small business should have to give our money to to others. Is he willing to give up his own money why does he need a million dollar home. His campaign complains about palins clothing costs but he has not problem spending 250 million dollars in the last week of the election on a 30 minute infommercial of why you should vote for him. Supposedly his wife bought her outfit at walmart for $150.00 dollars please what walmart has clothes for that much. His wife stated that she was only now proud to be an american because her husband was nominated for president. He attends a church of a pastor who say god damn american and states that the government made of hiv to get rid of white PLEASE!!!!!!! give me a break. His own nominated vice president insists that there will be an inernational crisis within 6 months of obamams presidency. I don't know about you but I sure don't want to attract that kind of behavior for out country. We have lose enough people due to terrorists. Obama along with many democrats wants to cut military spending good time to do that while we are at war. One minute he says all troops will come home the next he says he will pull troops out accordingly to not cause harm to this country. This man goes back and forth on what he says he is way to inexperiences to be chief of our country. This man is willing to say whatever he needs to say to whatever group of people to obtain votes. This man sickens and scares me he is truly a wolf in sheeps clothing and he has way to many people convinced that he's not.

Do any of you who are in support if obama watch fox news especially hannit and comes.

Hehe. You are using "hannit and comes" (sic) as your source? This should be fun.

This man wants to take money away from those that work hard and give it to those that don't work at all.

Yea... it is called progressive taxation and safety net programs. McCain supports that. Of course, McCain also supports such things in other ways. Read up on his HOLC proposal sometime.

How can anyone let alone a christian be in support of abortion in any shape or form partial, not partial what ever killing of another is wrong.

Well... there are many Christians who support abortion. Further, I believe that Barack Obama will do much more than John will do actually reduce abortions. He will actually care about children after they are born.

This man owns a million dollar home but says that those of us who have a small business should have to give our money to to others.

What does the size of his home have to do with his policy proposals? Nice straw man. Do you know how many homes John McCain owns? And does your small business make more than $250,000 in taxable income? If so, then yea, you will be asked to pay a slightly higher rate in taxes. If you are making more than $250,000 in taxable income (not revenue), I am pretty sure that you will survive.

Is he willing to give up his own money why does he need a million dollar home.

Yea... he is, actually. He, like anyone else, will pay the appropriate amount of taxes. And seriously? You are attacking him for owning a million dollar home? First of all, do your research on John McCain's homes before you come on here trolling. Second of all, who the hell cares about their homes? All politicians are rich.

His campaign complains about palins clothing costs but he has not problem spending 250 million dollars in the last week of the election on a 30 minute infommercial of why you should vote for him.

This is a blatant lie. Obama is not spending anywhere close to $250M on his "infommercial" (sic). Nice try though. But seriously... you are attacking him for running a good campaign? And using the money that donors have given him? I have no idea how spending $150,000 on clothes (who spends that much on clothes anyway?!?!) is similar to buying television time though. I would love to hear that explanation.

Supposedly his wife bought her outfit at walmart for $150.00 dollars please what walmart has clothes for that much.

Huh? Where did she say that? Got a source for that?

His wife stated that she was only now proud to be an american because her husband was nominated for president.

No she didn't. Nice try though.

He attends a church of a pastor who say god damn american and states that the government made of hiv to get rid of white PLEASE!!!!!!!

God probably should damn America sometimes.

I don't know about you but I sure don't want to attract that kind of behavior for out country.

I have no idea what this means. "Attract that kind of behavior?" Attract how? What kind of behavior? And "out (sic) country?" Huh?

We have lose enough people due to terrorists.

I agree... how is that relevant to... well... anything that you are saying?

Obama along with many democrats wants to cut military spending good time to do that while we are at war.

We should cut military spending.

One minute he says all troops will come home the next he says he will pull troops out accordingly to not cause harm to this country.

All troops will come home, eventually, and he will do it in an appropriate way.

This man goes back and forth on what he says he is way to inexperiences to be chief of our country.

Not really... Obama has stayed pretty consistent this whole campaign. And do you really want to see all of McCain's flip flops? I bet Sean "hannit" doesn't tell you about those. You can start here.

This man is willing to say whatever he needs to say to whatever group of people to obtain votes.

Again, not really. And again, do some research on John McCain. Sometimes it seems like you are talking ABOUT John McCain.

This man sickens and scares me he is truly a wolf in sheeps clothing and he has way to many people convinced that he's not.

You know what is really scary? That people like you get all their news from Fox News.

He does not change his mind depending on who he's talking to. What he does is clarify what he has said after others twist his original words around. After reading your post I understand that English is hard for you but you need to either educate yourself or trust in those more educated than you. We do not need another hothead, rich man's President in our White House! Obama has stated the same thing, in different ways, because he keeps getting accused of things he never said. Most of us understand him the first time.

get a life. abortion should be left to the woman and family and their own good judgement.

make a woman not ready for a child have it and if she has a sick mind she will kill it. put on the news look at all the freaks killing their own children.

get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you! I am so glad this website is not totally full of crazy Christians. If we are Christ-like let us look at the way we are behaving towards these two children of God. The anti-Christ movement towards Obama is getting sooooo out of hand, and who was it started by? The people who are supposed to be loving and Christ-like. Those that believe in this ignorant trash are the one's going against their responsibilities as Christ followers.
I am proud to say I voted for Obama and am a strong Christian! Both men have their flaws, yet as Obama seems to work to better the lives of those in need- a strong focus of Christs life- I feel that Obama is more like a Christ follower than McCain. I'd love to speak further with anyone who disagrees or agrees.

Rebecca,

I agree with you. I thought I was crazy because I voted for Obama and didn't toe the conservative party line. I don't understand how Focus on the Family and all those ministries are singularly focused on issues like abortion. THere are other sactitify of life issues, like aleviating poverty and stopping wars (ahem, ahem Iraq). I wish I had found this site before the election, so that I would've had a source of support...like minded Christians. BTW, I'm pretty conservative, but I can't watch Fox News because the people on there skew the news something fierce.

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"It is hypocritical to be pro choice."
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First off you are half right... does anyone listen to Jesus? He said to repent and turn away from sins so that you may have everlasting life... and he also says I came not to condemn the world, but provide everlasting life... and he asks us to be more like him, so what does this all mean?

I would have to agree that we must view abortion as a sin (so in that case, being personally Pro-choice, as Christian, is indeed Hypocritical), but Jesus also said he came not to condemn... (So you are wrong too, it would be hypocritical to deny "the lost" this choice!)

So as a conclusion, live as a pro-life Cristian, but love the lost by not denying them their own choice in the matter.

We are to be a light to the world, not a sword.

Spare yourself from judgment and save that dreadful task for Christ when he comes :-)
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"I don't even understand why Barack Obama would be pro choice and for infanticide."
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Again, if you give people a choice to turn away from their sins, the Holy Spirit will do miracles in their life, but denying that right, denies what Christ came to show us to be before the world!

Lastly, please consider the statement Barack made: "we may not agree on abortion, but we can all agree on reducing deaths of the unborn..." That my friend is what it is all about! And if Barack truly is PERSONALLY pro-choice as a Cristian, then PRAY FOR HIM! Not any candidate is ever going to be perfect, "we are all sinners!" But don't forget what Jesus said should be one of our highest priorities... saving the lost and feeding the poor. Trust God (not your heart, for in the bible it says our heart is vile and full of lust and sin) to answer which candidate seems to care most about the less fortunate?

Love,
just another branch on the vine :)

I agree with what is being said here. Obama is a fraud. He is not a Christian or if he is he's truly not showing the fruits of one.

I am sick of his lies.

I am especially sick of websites like this that cover up lies.

Almost everyone here is either not a Christian or needs to consult the Bible more. And Jason, if you say that the Bible doesn't show the way then you truly are lost.

Obama is a fraud. He is not a Christian or if he is he's truly not showing the fruits of one.

Huh? Who are you to say that he is not a Christian? And what fruits are you referring to?

I am sick of his lies.

Like what? And do you want to do a comparison of McCain and Obama's lies? That would be fun.

I am especially sick of websites like this that cover up lies.

What lies am I covering up? And, fwiw, I am "especially sick" of people that come onto sites like this and don't back up what they are saying, and make ludicrous statements about how Obama is not a Christian, regardless of the clear statements that he has made.

Almost everyone here is either not a Christian or needs to consult the Bible more.

Yup... I need to consult my Bible more. Or am I not a Christian?

You do not know me, and know nothing about my faith. So please do not come to my site and make arrogant and condescending statements about me and my faith.

Go troll somewhere else.

Dave, You never make any intelligent rebuttals, (read above) you have no answer for Obamas immorality that is why. Show me one fact you never show facts! I show you references and back it up, you make comments. Obama will lose, and yes he opposes gay marriage so I do not know why you support him sayings how you are gay.

You never make any intelligent rebuttals,

If you say so.

Show me one fact you never show facts!

I have given many facts.

I show you references and back it up, you make comments.

Really? I have backed up what I have said. Further, you continue to claim that I am saying things that I am not.

Obama will lose,

Really? Because you say so? I guess you don't like the facts on this one, do you? Almost every poll has Obama winning, and winning big. And here is a good source on the current state of the race, since you claim to like facts.

and yes he opposes gay marriage

I know that he opposed gay marriage. That is too bad. But I have long acknowledged that he opposes gay marriage even though you refuse to acknowledge that.

so I do not know why you support him sayings how you are gay.

Huh? Maybe my intellect isn't great enough, but I can't really understand your gibberish on this one.

Are you saying that I am gay? Now that is VERY Christian of you.

And my wife would probably disagree with you.

But go ahead and say that I am gay. And stay classy.

Dave,

Obama never says what he believes, so as far as to go and search for one particular moments when he actually says what he stands for would be a miracle in itself. You should be asking yourself why hasn't he stated his beliefs on anything? One moment he is for something the next moment he is against it. It all depends on what crowd he is speaking with that day.

Obama never says what he believes,

What are you talking about? He talks all the time about what he believes.

so as far as to go and search for one particular moments when he actually says what he stands for would be a miracle in itself.

Just curious if lying aligns with your Christian beliefs? Maybe you need to "see the light of the Lord."

You should be asking yourself why hasn't he stated his beliefs on anything?

You should ask yourself why you are not doing any research about what Obama says about what he believes in. You should also ask yourself why you are running around blogs spreading lies about someone. Christian, eh?

One moment he is for something the next moment he is against it. It all depends on what crowd he is speaking with that day.

Wrong. Go make up stuff somewhere else; I don't want to deal with it here.

Dave you wanted to see where Obama does not support gay marriage, here you go;

IFILL: Let's try to avoid nuance, Senator. Do you support gay marriage?

BIDEN: No. Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage. We do not support that. That is basically the decision to be able to be able to be left to faiths and people who practice their faiths the determination what you call it.

Dave you wanted to see where Obama does not support gay marriage, here you go;

BIDEN: No. Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage. We do not support that. That is basically the decision to be able to be able to be left to faiths and people who practice their faiths the determination what you call it.

No... I did not say that I wanted to see where Obama does not support gay marriage. I asked to see a quote where Obama opposed marriage between a man and a woman. And the quote that you have sure didn't show me that.

Dave, Your are just a bully on here, you choose not to accept the facts and yes you did say that about Obama read above. You are lacking the intellect to even try and converse with me. You contradict what you say, "read the blogs that you post". And yes Obama is for killing babies, his record speaks for itself. I bet you believe that they are not "lives" yet either, (the embryo) and yet its funny how liberals will protect and accept an endagerd eagle egg as a life by creating laws to protect it and yet are wiling to kill a life. Regardless of the circumstance that child has rights as well. Dave really stop drinking the kool aid.

yes you did say that about Obama read above.

This is what I said. I copied and pasted, so it is a direct quote:

Please show me where he opposed marriage between man and a woman. I would love to see that Obama quote.

The person I was replying to said that Obama opposed marriage between a man and a woman. I know of no politician who opposes such things, so I asked to see where Obama has opposed marriage between a man a woman. That is NOT, at all, opposing gay marriage.

Good try though.

I guess your great intellect has trouble with basic reading comprehension.

I bet you believe that they are not "lives" yet either, (the embryo) and yet its funny how liberals will protect and accept an endagerd eagle egg as a life by creating laws to protect it and yet are wiling to kill a life.

Keep making assumptions about me, even though it is quite clear that you do not have a clue about what you are talking about.

Dave, it seems that when you do not like what someone says you call them "liars" as I read they have shown you where they were indeed right. Who is the liar then? Keep posting stuff I will be happy to reference anything you do not believe and show it to be true, be careful when casting stones at people. Also, why are you so hostile? I thought this was a Christian forum, and yet you seem to have some real anger issues.

Dave, it seems that when you do not like what someone says you call them "liars" as I read they have shown you where they were indeed right.

Huh? Where?

Also, why are you so hostile? I thought this was a Christian forum, and yet you seem to have some real anger issues.

I am hostile to people who have little interest in dialog, but instead want to go trolling on blogs trying to tell Christians why they cannot vote for Obama. And I am not interested in the many, many lies that people have tried to spread on this blog about Barack Obama.

Dave,
The only lies on this blog are the ones coming from you trying to justify the actions of Obama again its on the record I have shown it and his VP said that himself and Obama are against Gay marriage that is Obamas VP the one who speaks on behalf of his policy's. And yes Obama does believe it is ok to let babies die that have been born from a partial birth abortion, check the legislation. You can try to spin it however you want to make yourself sleep better at night but he is a baby killer.

his VP said that himself and Obama are against Gay marriage

Please tell me which comment I said that Obama was not against gay marriage?

And yes Obama does believe it is ok to let babies die that have been born from a partial birth abortion, check the legislation.

Wrong. I know the legislation, and I know the context.

You can try to spin it however you want to make yourself sleep better at night but he is a baby killer.

Wrong.

Dave, Again, you forget what you write. Read above you call people who disagree with you liars.

No.

I call people who lie "liars."

There is a big difference between disagreeing and spreading outright lies and distortions.

Dave, I think I love you.

If Obama in fact wins it only shows God has removed his hand from this nation. Search your heart and get right with the Lord. Repent and prepare for a future laid out in Revelations. A true God fearing Christian protects the unborn, wanted or not.

Ummm... huh?

So let me guess... George Bush winning in 2000 and 2004 meant that God had "his" hand on this nation?

A true god fearing nation does a lot of things... not just opposes abortion.

And this country is not, and has never been, a "true god fearing nation."

Dave,
your tone is one that I am assuming believes in nothing. Our nation was founded on christian beliefs. Our beliefs as Christians has nothing to do with a "fearing God" but loving and living by his word. We do not have a reason to fear him, we have accepted his son as our Lord and Savior we are already save. My Brother I will pray for you that you to may someday be blessed and reach out to see the light of the Lord. God Bless you, and killing a baby is just wrong you do not need a religion to tell you that at least I would like to think that one would see that as wrong. That kind of upbringing comes from your family though. Lastly, abortion is a man made thing and Planned Parenthood was developed with the orginal purpose as a way of eliminating the blacks, Hispanics, and Jews. The founder saw it as a way of cleansing society of those weaker and less educated. Today it continues to feed off of the lower income people and has since turned into a "womens right" issue vice a humans right issue. Do you realize that our government has it illegal to kill an endangered eagle and that protection extends to its eagle egg or "unborn eagle". Our country would rather make laws to protect the lives of a animal than that of an unborn child.

your tone is one that I am assuming believes in nothing.

Friendly advice ... instead of assuming, you might want to look around the blog a little more.

Like at the title.

your tone is one that I am assuming believes in nothing.

Your tone is one that I am assuming has absolutely no clue about me or what I believe.

Our nation was founded on christian beliefs.

Umm... no. Good try though.

Our beliefs as Christians has nothing to do with a "fearing God" but loving and living by his word.

Really? You should do a study on the "Fear of the Lord" sometime.

My Brother I will pray for you that you to may someday be blessed and reach out to see the light of the Lord.

Cut the condescending crap. You have no clue about me or what I believe or what I have seen.

That kind of upbringing comes from your family though.

Huh? Now you are blaming my family for my alleged beliefs that you know so little about?

BTW... I am well aware of the history of Planned Parenthood.

But I am not sure how that relates to this post.

I agree with you Dave. Why is Bush's presidency attributed to the hand of God, but Obama's is not? God has left the room. That is so ridiculous. That's just like saying when Lincoln was in the White House and abolished slavery, God left the nation because some "Christians" were for slavery. No, God is sovereign and in control. Always. So, if a nation with such a brutual history of prejudice (the vestiges of which still remain today) votes for a black person, I'm inclined to believe that it was indeed the hand of God. Anybody who is elected, for that matter, is elected according to the will of God. All things work together for the good of those who love God. His will will always be done in the long run. So, why not do the Christian thing and pray for the leaders of our nation, whether you voted for them or not?

And I agree that America has never been a Christian nation...not since the Pilgrims and the Mayflower Compact. We might have had a Christian culture (most historians say that we are in a post-Christian nation), but that is toally different from our founding fathers actually being wholly dedicated to orthodox Christianity. They weren't BTW. Remember that Thomas Jefferson's personal bible didn't contain any miracles. He also had slaves and had children with them out of wedlock.

First of all, I wish abortion were outlawed just so it wouldn't be the cornerstone for determining who leads the nation. Secondly, if you believe that a fertilized egg is instantly a child, why are women who miscarry told it was just God's will, and no funeral or services held? 10% of pregnancy ends in spontaneous rejection by the body. And if you feel, as you obviously do, that a divided cell is a baby, fine. But if you support those who support unprovoked war and torture, please don't call yourself pro life...pro embryo would be more appropriate.

I can see that this issue has been breached several times over, but I would like to reiterate some of Dave's points.

"A true God fearing Christian protects the life of the unborn ..." Completely agreed, Derrick. However, a true God fearing Christian also protects the life of inmates on death-row, the lives of those in a war zone and the lives of those killed by guns. To focus on one issue as a Christian is short sighted.

Abortion is an enormous issue, but it is still a "hot button" Christian issue. If a "God fearing Christian" votes for a conservative who supports the death penalty, war and the right to bear arms ... they are as guilty of failing to protect life as a liberal who votes for a candidate who protects a woman's right to choose.

Sarah Palin has said ... and I paraphrase ... that she doesn't think anyone, democrat or republican, wants abortions. That is exactly how I feel as a human being and more so as a Christian. Abortions are horrible. However, if we were to make them illegal, they would not stop happening. Instead, abortions would become much more risky and dangerous to the mother and the child alike.

We as Christians must realize that we are only a portion of the population on this planet. Not everyone has heard, or come to accept the Gospel or Christ. Our job is not to judge and condemn, but to spread the GOOD NEWS.

In Him

Joe, thank you for putting my thoughts into words so much more eloquently than I have ever been able to.

God bless.

joe--thank you so much for your statement. i too am a follower of Christ (not the church or church leaders!) and find myself frustrated over and over again with conservatives. yes, abortion is terrible, but it is not the real issue. the issue is young girls you are ignored at home, so they find comfort in a relationship that cuts their youth short. the issue of abortion stems from the fact that we as a society are so "now" oriented, that we are unwilling to wait for that special, meaningful relationship (whether you marry or not) where you want to raise kids together. yes, i know that not everyone shares these moral views on sex, but we can all agree that rampant promiscuity leads to not only unwanted pregnancy, but a rapid spread of vds, hiv/aids, and many broken hearts! perhaps the way to reduce abortions is to increase education to our kids, which involves a community of caring adults, so that the youth of our society will respect themselves and others before a pregnancy even occurs! also, i have never been in the position of a victim of rape or a women faced with the choice: you die, or your baby dies. who am i (or who are lawmakers) to dictate what their choices are? abortions are just an effect of a much deeper cause. may we all love our neighbor as our self and do unto others as we would have done unto ourselves. true religion is this: to care for widows and orphans and those in need. love and respect is a much louder voice that condemnation.

Obama can be the only right choice for our country. We must have a leader who can lead us into change and we must not continue on the same path we are on at this moment. God will give the authority to the person of His choice, but I plan to vote for Obama.

I am against abortion but for family planning. I am against the needless killing of war. I feel that people can have love for whomever they choose. I am a christian and a close follower of Jesus and I am completely convinced that Obama is the right person for the Presidency.
There will not be a perfect candidate. There will always be shortcomings and there will be no one who can do the work of correcting this countrys mistakes in a vacuum. It will take all of us and we will need to pray for this country everyday. It will take a miracle of God to get us on the righteous road but I trust that Obama can take the lead, right behind Jesus and an army of christian supporters. Now is the time!!

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave or free person, there is not male and female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28).

Unless, of course, you are aborted before you get the chance....

But, hey, I am sure God is just fine with your choice....No, truthfully, I am. Go ahead. Now quit second guessing yourself.....Go ahead. Nothing wrong with a little infanticide, right?